Tuesday, July 11, 2006

Burnlounge: Behind the Music

We finally got our new “Make it Rich” scheme, and it is called Burnlounge. According to Burnlounge.com, “Burnlounge is the world’s first community-based digital download service.” Basically Burnlounge is like an iTunes, except instead of having one store selling music, there are thousands of different stores, all selling the same music. For a fee, someone will be able to open up his/her music store and start making a profit selling music. But, it even gets better! If a person signs someone else, he/she earns a bonus. Also, a person earns profit from people that person signs up, and music sales from people below them. So in simple terms: it is a pyramid scheme or more specifically a Mutli-Level Marketing, MLM.

So how is this considered legal? Because there is a product involved, the music. The music is the backbone in making this little scheme look legitimate. Hypothetically, someone could make a successful business selling music on its store’s website. However, the problem comes with finding your customers. Who will actually buy your music? For one thing, every store sells the exact product, or in economic terms it is a perfect competition. Are you going to be able to persuade some Joe to buy Ashlee Simpson at your store when he could choose to buy it at one of the other 35,000 plus stores on Burnlounge? Not likely. This does not even include the iTunes factor. Most people buy from iTunes directly because songs can go directly to their ipods. As of now, the music from Burnlounge is not formatted to go on an ipod. And both products are 99 cents. That leaves a “really” tough decision for the consumer. In the age where ipods dominate, music not formatted for ipods are as useless as a winter jacket in Miami. So who are your customers? Most likely friends and families, and you the owner.

So where does the money come from? Signing up other people. Your revenue comes from getting other people to fall for this scheme, and then these people to get other people to fall for the scheme. So in reality you really are never selling music. You are selling these “stores” to other people looking to make an easy profit. According to the definition Multi-Level Marketing, a MLM is only legit when commissions are earned only on sales of the company's products. No money may be earned from recruiting alone (Wikipedia). Mary Kay is an example of a legitimate MLM. Mary Kay employees only earn commissions on its sells and its team sells, not by signing up people (Wikipedia).

So all profit come from basically scamming someone into buying something. But what about all those people making profits? Yes, many people have made a profit off this little scam. However, this profit has all been by scamming others. So people will get rich, but many will not. In a pyramid, there are very few on top, but many at the bottom. You may have a friend trying to get you to join this great opportunity. Of course he is, he is trying to make some money. Your friend knows he is not going to make any money selling music, unless his wife wants to download all of Madonna’s songs. Your friend may even entice you about all the profit he made. Trust me, your friend is not lying, he made a profit, but mostly because of idiots like you. And after scamming you off, you will now carry the burden of having to find other idiots to scam. So for those who don’t have a conscience this is indeed a great way to make money. But, just like any pyramid, there is a bottom. And those are the ones who will be the biggest losers.

Imagine if I had a coconut store, and I decided to franchise out my coconut store. Let’s say that I sell my coconut stores for one hundred dollars and I find five people. I tell those five people they now are able to franchise coconut stores out to people, and I will give them a portion of the profits. This continues many times. All of the coconut stores selling the exact same coconuts. I, who am at top of the pyramid, am making loads of money even though I have yet to sell a coconut. Now let us say that I found out that all the coconuts in my franchises are poisonous. Would this affect revenue? Not at all, because no one is even buying a coconut. This is exactly the same scheme the founders of Burnlounge have done. These founders are the true winners. They are making tons of money, while you, the person driven by greed, are busy scamming your friends and families.

Did anyone ever ask the question, “Why didn’t the founders of Burnlounge sell the music straight to the customer?” The people behind Burnlounge like to tell their customers that they want to give the public access to sell music and opportunity to make money instead of having big companies such as Apple reap all the benefits. The truth, however, is that they make more money selling these “stores” to people like you, and do far less working than trying to sell the music. Because who is Burnlounge’s number one advertiser? You, the person trying to recruit innocent people to scam. The heads, CEOs, whoever is behind Burnlounge does not need to work hard to find customers because they know people’s greed will lead them to Burnlounge.

The old saying goes, “If it seems too good to be true, then it is” is exactly the moral to my story. Everybody is trying to look for an easy dollar. It is our natural instincts as humans to follow greed. That greed leads millions of people to stupid schemes every year. Yes, I understand some people do make a profit with Burnlounge. Those people are the ones who are able to scam many people. And the big winners are the ones who are able to scam lots and lots of people. But at the end of the day, you have to be able to look at yourself in the mirror. For some, they have no conscience. They fail to care about the many who have lost money because they are too busy counting their own. However, I like to pride myself as an ethical man. And I don’t think a few hundred or thousands dollars is worth having the inability to look yourself in the mirror. And worst yet: losing all your friends and families whom you have scammed.

19 Comments:

Anonymous Thomas Jameson said...

I totally agree with this. Burnlounge is just another stupid get rich scheme. When will people ever learn.

11:09 AM  
Anonymous Greg Peterson said...

This scam is so obvious, I can't believe how many stupid people there are.

12:49 PM  
Anonymous Happy Drummer said...

Well not that they are "stupid" but they actually think people give 2 flying f****'s about something like being able to sell music online. I am a musician and couldn't care less.

1:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"University Economist says Burnlounge looks to be a Ponzi's Scheme" looked really promising. Was that a teaser or is there an economist somewhere who said that on the record?

Inquiring wikipedians want to know…

11:37 PM  
Blogger The Football Expert said...

After the article was written, an Economist professor from a distinguish school was sent this article and researched Burnlounge, he decided it was a Ponzi's Scheme.

8:11 AM  
Anonymous Frank Coleman said...

I guess you'd feel the same about Quixtar (Amway), Xango, Nikken, Forever Living, NuSkin, Shackley, etc. or any other enterprise that sell products in any other than the standard way of doing business.

By the way, why don't you tell McDonald's, Burger King, Taco Bell, etc. that it's stupid to sell the same product that many thousand other stores sell at the same price.

Burnlounge is just another way of doing business.

It really gets to me when someone doesn't agree with a system and then becomes the self appointed savior of the world by bad mouthing what they don't want to or can't make successful themselves.

Either do it or don't; that's your choice.

9:22 AM  
Blogger The Football Expert said...

n regards to your comment. McDonald's. BK, TB, franchise owners make their profits selling products, not by signing up new franchises. Also, it is not a perfect competition, because the restaurants are at different locations. There are not 35,000 stores side by sided of each other. Amway is the poster child for MLMs that are not very legit. I have a problem when most of the profits a person owns is signing up other people, not by selling its product, which is exactly what Burnlounge is doing. Burnlounge's profits come from selling these stores. This is the biggest scam right now, and so many people are falling into it. The exact scam is considered a Ponzi's scheme.

9:38 AM  
Blogger Icarus said...

A few comments:

Nice site! I'm one of the many who were "in" BurnScam at the beginning and I am now very happily OUT of the very clear Ponzi scheme. (It took me 21 e-mails and threatened lawsuits and an e-mail exchange with an alleged Vice-Pres of the company to actually GET out ... but that's another story).

Some criticisms for your blog:

If you're going to site some "university economist" -- you've got to provide names, links, and citations. If I were you, I'd get rid of that entry altogether. At the moment, it looks exactly like something a Burnmelounger would say - all assertion and no support. It hurts your credibility.

Along the same lines, your assertion that "No money may be earned from recruiting alone" for an MLM to be legit is inaccurate. (Personally I think ALL MLM's actually ARE scams ... but I'm talking legal definitions). The truth is that FTC guidelines and Supreme Court precedent have set a minimal 70% level as revenue which MUST come from actual sales. And regardless of what Burnscammers will tell you - that 70% has to come from somebody BESIDES the "moguls" themselves.

If you need links for any of the above, let me know.

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Criticisms aside - right on, man! More people need to exposing this scam. You've got the right idea: nobody, and I mean nobody, is ever going to make money selling products; the only earning potential is through the chain-letter effect of scamming the suckers beneath you.

An idea: challenge anyone who finds your blog to show you their actual numbers. Good luck! I haven't seen a Burnmelounger yet who will do it!

Every single burnscammer has either 1) made no money at all, or 2) got in early enough and scammed enough of their friends and family to make some money working it like a chain letter - but none of them made money selling music.

By the way, before I got the hell out of this Ponzi scheme, I had 36 people beneath me (I got in all the way back in January). Of those 36, 35 had not even come close to making their money back. One guy, who I directly signed up, had worked his ass off for 6 months ... and made a grand total of $900. Minus the $440 'mogul + university.' Minus $14.95 per month. Minus all the money he spent going to Vegas and going to weekly meetings. In other words - he probably lost more money than anyone.

And of those 36 people, the entire downline sold less than FIVE DOLLARS worth of music. In six months.

Keep preaching the truth, brother. Maybe you'll spare a few suckers from wasting their time and energy.

Check this site if you haven't seen it:

http://burnlounge.proboards92.com/index.cgi

10:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Icarus,

Thanks for the plug. I believe you can skip the whole index.cgi thing and just go to http://burnlounge.proboards92.com/

-IG

The BurnLounge™ Discussion Forum

11:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank You, just came from first meeting trying to recruit me. Wanted to do some research your blog opened my eyes. Thank you again once less sucker.

6:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, I think I might actually be in a pyramid. I work with a business that pays you $1000 if a person you refer joins the company.
They sent out an email saying that the company was looking to "fill positions in our quickly expanding team", and that we would be "rewarded for our efforts". Wanna know the name... its GE!
Wow, who knew a referral bonus made you a scam??

Gee, happy drummer doesn't give 2 sh!ts about selling music online, I guess that means no one else should either, and everyone should quit! Hell, iTunes should stop doing it too!

And why is Amway a bad MLM? You don't even get paid for registering people with Amway, its the SAME as Mary Kay, you get paid by moving product and helping a team of retailers move product.

The analogy of the BK and McD's is right on! Same product, same price! They're not right next to each other? 1st of all usually fastfood joints Are right next to each other, but you act as if BL retailers are right next to each other. I have access to people that 20,000 retailers in CA do not. They have to know the URL to buy music! So I'll promote mine where I live, especially to friends, family and co-workers.
BTW, Burnlounge music WILL play an on ipod, you simply have to burn it to a CD and rip it into itunes. Not to mention pressure is being put on Apple, and others to make digital music universal, like CD music is, and thats the right thing to do!
I have no desire to be a doctor thats my perogitive. Some of you seem to have no desire to own a business or build a network marketing business, thats fine, but that doesn't mean you have to bash those that do!
People buy music online! I'd rather buy from a family member or friend than from Steve Jobs. Just like many women buy their make-up from a friend vs Sam Walton. That's all Burnlounge retailers do. Hey instead of buying it here, by it thru me. People WILL make money selling music, people already ARE! And if GE can give a referall bonus of $1000, why can't BL give $20?
Mike C.

9:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Practically all businesses have a money-generatoring operation in order to build the business. One gave theory of Coconut Stores selling the same product and who will buy? That is like saying there are over 500 Virgin Mega Stores selling the same kind of music and who is going to buy?? (they sell music without a problem) or another example Clthing stores with the same Brands as other clothing stores..how will they sell clothes or who would "Buy" from that store if they all "Sell" the same brands and styles. But it sells, so whom ever is trying to throw the 'Gasoline' on a 'Business' oppurtinity for people and not 'Suckers,Dummies or Stupids' go and hate on yourself for thinking you'd make Money FAST and EASY all the time. Sh-T! what Business does make money without and investment and Promo's/Sales Marketing?

Some 'Suckers' like the complainers want there Money on a 'Silver Platter'. And that's what most 'complainers' expected of this experience.

10:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Practically all businesses have a money generating operation in order to build the business. One gave theory of Coconut Stores selling the same product and who will buy? That is like saying there are over 500 Virgin Mega Stores selling the same kind of music and who is going to buy?? (they sell music without a problem) or another example Clothing stores with the same Brands as other clothing stores..how will they sell clothes or who would "Buy" from that store if they all "Sell" the same brands and styles. But it sells, so whom ever is trying to throw the 'Gasoline' on a 'Business' opportunity for people and not 'Suckers, Dummies or Stupids' go and hate on yourself for thinking you'd make Money FAST and EASY all the time. Sh-T! what Business does make money without and investment and Promo's/Sales Marketing?

Some 'Suckers' like the complainers want there Money on a 'Silver Platter'. And that's what most 'complainers' expected of this experience.

10:25 PM  
Anonymous Tom Davis said...

You fail to say one thing, all those Virgin Music stores, all those clothing stores are in different locations. The Virgin Music store in NYC does not compete with the one in LA. On the internet Virgin does not have seperate stores for each location, its one store. Burnlounge however dont differentiate from location. They are identical. Plus, when was the last time the price in LA was the same as the price in Omaha? You need to work on you common sense.

10:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have an interest in joining BurnLounge... BUT I have a few questions for the burnloungers here, and I'd like to hear both sides of the story.

So here's the question: how much do you make selling music through your BurnLounge site? And how much do you need to make in order to keep up with the monthly fees, dvds, and various other things you have to pay for?

I once paid $420 to join an MLM company in 2000, but I kept having to pay more to goto meetings/trainings/conferences, drive to the meetings, pay hundreds in cell phone bills, and have my close friends and family feeling like I'm making money off of them.

Also, whenever I recruited someone, I had two weeks to recruit a second person before that first one expires or else I'd receive no recruiting commission/bonus.

On top of all this, I was never told about all these discrepancies until I joined. I didn't know I had to shell out so much gas money, conference money, ticket money for conventions and what not. I did not know I had to renew my $420 per year, along with the expiration thing I mentioned earlier.

In the end, the company failed, cuz their product never took off. I mean, I would definitely buy stuff through my friend's e-commerce site so he could make commission, but it just doesn't seem like a popular idea.

I'm thinking of joining BurnLounge if their product actually does sell for good $$ AND if it's possible to make a profit if I do it part-time. Is that the case? How many songs do I need to sell per week in order to make it WORTH my time and energy? And by that I mean 20 hours a week, $260 a week. My gf makes that much after tips brewing Starbucks coffee.

1:43 AM  
Blogger UBurn Entertainment Group said...

Got to love the eBlogger! But when it comes to the whole BurnLounge issue, I'm finding that most of the people are simply mis-informed! While everybody is entitled to an opinion, it is nothing more than that--THEIR opinion. So, I would like to give everybody something to think about.

I don't care WHO you are--or what kind of "education" you might have--or even if you're considered an "expert" in whatever field. The fact of the matter is, just because you're an "expert" doesn't mean you'd recognize a good idea if it banged you over the head! Case in point, in 1943, Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM had this to say about the future of computers, "I think there's a world market for maybe five computers."

Consider what a Yale management professor's response to future Federal Express founder Fred Smith's thesis proposing an overnight delivery service: "The concept is interesting and well formed, but in order to earn better than a C, the idea must be feasible." Well, we know who got the last laugh on that one.

Ferdinand Foch, commander in chief of the Allied armies at the end of World War 1, had this to say about airplanes, "Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value."

Elisha Grey, renowned inventor, said this, "[Alexander Graham] Bell seems to be spending all his energies in [the] talking telegraph. While this is very interesting scientifically, it has no commercial value...I don't want at present to spend my time and money for that which will bring no reward"

Listen to Lee De Forest, the "Father of Radio" had to say about television, "While theoretically and technically television may be feasible, commercially and financially, I consider it an impossibility."

How about this from Lord Kelvin, Scottish engineer, mathematician, and physicist (1899), "Radio has no future. Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. X-rays will prove to be a hoax."

The fact of the matter is, I believe that BurnLounge is a very interesting concept. I studied it for a couple of months before actually taking the plunge, and I must say, I was a little confused at how it all fit together, but impressed, none the less. After all, Music is something that interests most EVERYBODY--on one level or another; whether you're an artist--or just a listener. Furthermore, I believe that the timing (very important) is right, as everything is shifting from a physical product, to a digital (wherever possible). With Tower records filing bankruptcy and Virgin right behind them, some people STILL don't get the clue that the brick & mortar store are on the way out. They just can't compete with no overhead! The future IS digital downloading--not just Music...but Movies, Games, Books, etc. In 2007, BurnLounge will begin to offer all of that and more! For those who like to site "competition" as a reason that BurnLounge will not make it--well, there are already some 300 music download site available today--and that is GROWING (not diminishing, due to competition)--yet, BurnLounge is unique, in the fact that it is the ONLY service that allows people the ability to have THEIR OWN customizable "corner store," and receive points/rewards--with the potential of turning those points into CASH off every purchase that is made from their store. Just having the OPPORTUNITY to do that--is something that speaks VOLUMES, as that market has--up to this point--always been regulated by either the big wigs in the music & entertainment industry, or those who had the big dollars, who could afford to open their own storefront, pay for stocking that store, employing the help needed to run that store, and paying for advertising to bring people in to that store.

So, why NOT BurnLounge? As a fan, all it takes is $29.95 (a yr.) and you've got your own customized/personalized store to buy & sell music from (as well as the entertainment products mentioned above, when they become available). You can earn points/rewards good for free products, etc. I think that EVERYBODY should do at least THIS much. After all, credit card companies do this all the time; You use THEIR card, you get points/rewards for using THEIRS, rather than someone Else's (i.e. their competition's). It just makes sense! Who would be "stupid enough" (a popular word being thrown around here for those who have gotten involved with BurnLounge) to purchase music & entertainment from a site that doesn't give them anything back for purchases--when there is a site that DOES give them something back? And there are no "requirements" at all that says you have to purchase a certain amount of music at this level.

Furthermore, I believe (and have found PERSONALLY) that most people WILL go to buy music & entertainment products from a friend or family member--if they know they have a store--and the price is COMPETITIVE with the competition (something that 99% of all traditional MLM's are known for NOT being! They hike up their prices in order to pay their commissions, and try to convince you that THEIR product is some different enough to warrant the inflated price!) Think about it, they're going to buy the music ANYWAY, whether it be from iTunes, Napster, etc.--why NOT buy it from you, someone they know and have a relationship with? If you owned a gas station in town--and right across the street was another station, wouldn't you like to believe that your family & friends would buy their gas from YOU--rather than the one across the street?

As for iTunes--who's scamming who? iTunes is only a magnet to sell another product that cost significantly MORE...the iPod!
How many people has Apple scammed? Anyone who is current on technology should know that many industry "experts" believe that iPod has already seen its "glory days." They believe that the iPod is on the way OUT...and seem to have the numbers to support what they say. I will not take the extra space to give that information here...but do the research yourself, and if anyone would like to know more about this, I'll be happy to point you in the right direction if you'd like to contact me. The fact of the matter is, most all of your newer cell phones coming out are coming loaded with mp3 players--and they're NOT compatible with the iPod, rather WMA--which is what well over 90% of all computers are loaded with. Gee, here's a "No Brainer!" And if the trends in Europe & Asia are any indication of what's happening here--the trend is NOT to carry around an iPod, a cell phone and a PDA--it's having everything in one unit...the phone!

So, let's say that you're MORE than just a music fan...that you'd actually like to take BurnLounge to a higher level. Well, that's where the network marketing model of this comes in. To participate on this level there are two packages--one for $149.00 & the other for $429.00, the latter being the VIP package for those who are serious about making a business out of it, and who like to go to concerts and rub elbows with the stars (I've got some great testimonies). Yes, you've got to make at least TWO album sales each month to "qualify"--but that simply means that your STORE has to move those two albums--not you (having to purchase two albums yourself each month). Let's face it, I don't care WHAT kind of business you're in, if you don't sell product--you're NOT going to stay in business very long. Having to sell (i.e move through your store)$19.90 a month is NOTHING! And while there is a "Mogul" charge per month (14.95)--that's nothing when you take into account what you GET for that! First of all, you get a website that costs several million dollars to put together! Next, you've got a business management software that's truly great in its own right! Finally, you receive 10 free songs a month that you can download, that are selected by the A & R department! The songs are some of the newest stuff hitting the market that you should probably know about (i.e if you're going to be in the business). I look at it this way, when you add up the TOTAL investment--when you add up what you would have spent (at the HIGHEST level...the VIP), including the Mogul fees and saying that if nobody bought ANYTHING from your store (that you bought the two albums a month yourself), you're only looking at a total investment of under $850.00! I don't know if you've ever tried to go into business for yourself before--but that's NOTHING! How many business are there out there that will allow you to set up shop--and RUN that business for an entire year...for under $850.00? What planet did you come off of? Furthermore, I doubt you'll have as much FUN with anything else!

As I mentioned earlier, I checked this out closely for two months. The individual that told me about it was an engineer, who I respect greatly. He likes to analyze every little thing, taking it apart, and then putting it back together. When I saw his back office, I was more than convinced that people can make money in this (he'd already mad $5,000 his first month!)--but you've got to put in the WORK (that's where most people fail in network marketing--they want someone ELSE to do the work FOR them. Sorry, but there are no "free lunches"). Not only that, the friend who told him about BurnLounge, has been consistently bringing home $30,000! Finally, while I'm not doing as great as they are--I HAVE made more than what it cost me...and THAT'S the the only thing that really matters to me. The fact of the matter is, the only reason I'm NOT doing better, is due to the fact that I've not invested the TIME that they have. That's MY loss!

As for MLM--or whatever you'd like to call it (some refer to it as "Network Marketing"), I really believe that it's a great model...at least in concept. It all boils down to the business model. Those who mock Amway, fail to recognize that they have been around for 30+ years (certainly not a "Fly by Night")--and their currently a 4 BILLION dollar company--and they're DEBT FREE! I don't know too many companies who can claim such a thing! Most everybody refers to Amway as King of the Pyramid's, namely, that those who are at the top are the ones who make all the money, and the ones at the bottom are merely feeding them. Yet, that's no different than any other successful company in corporate America; the one who's at the top, say the CEO/President, makes most the money, then below him, might be the Vice-President, CFO, COO, below them might be a National Sales Manager, below that person, a Regional Sales Manager, below them a General Sales Manager, below them a Sales Manager, below them an Asst. Sales Manager, below them the "Workers," below them, the Secretary's Assistants, etc. However you lay it out, they people at the top make the most money--and it all gets smaller the further you go down the rung! Likewise, the further you go down, the more it takes on the shape of the Pyramid! Deny it all you want--but that doesn't make it any less true! Want a good book that speaks POSITIVELY about MLM, check out "Wave 4," by Richard Poe. In it, he talks about how Major companies are starting to recognize the power of MLM and what it can do for their companies. It is starting to be accepted more and more in the marketplace.

A knock-off of network marketing...is "Affiliate" marketing--something that is growing at a very rapid rate among businesses who see the power in work of mouth advertising. Consider this, I use a VOIP service, who "rewards" me when I send people their way. Well, guess who the greater part of those people are? Family & friends! And when they sign on, I get $2.00 back off my bill--each month. It didn't take long before my phone service was costing me nothing! Is it MLM? Not in the sense of the word--but it seems to operate in some of the same circles, so you decide!

For the ARTISTS--BurnLounge is an incredible opportunity--whether you have a label or not. The artists that have aligned themselves with BurnLounge already is nothing short of AMAZING! Two of the biggest investors of BurnLounge...is Rich Dees (Weekly Top 40) and Justin Timberlake! Would these guys risk their reputation of something that is what most of the people on this site claim it it? Hardly! What about all the other BIG NAME musicians that have aligned themselves with BurnLounge? People like Elvis Presley Enterprises, Doc McGee, James Brown, Hootie and THe Blowfish, Kanye West, Willie Nelson, MC Lyte, Charlie Daniels Band, Boston, Good Charlotte, Ted Nugent, Jars of Clay, Paula Abdul, Justin Guarini. Or what about some of the sports stars, like Shaquille O'Neal, Jason Kidd, Yao Ming, Cuttino Mobley, Dale Ellis, Chuck Finley and Coaches/Owners like Joe Gibbs, Mark Cuban, Jerry Richardson, and NASCAR's Dale Earnhardt, jr., Jeff Gordon, Rusty Wallace, Tony Stewart, Kasey Kane, Danica Patrick, Kurt Bush, etc.. Then there's Cadillac, Nokia, Logitech, Live Nation, Montgomery & Co. and even Senator Jeff Wentworth!---------Can all of these people be wrong...and YOU right? Would all of these people be willing to risk their reputations on BurnLounge, if in fact, YOU'RE right? Let's get REAL! That's MUCH harder to swallow--than what you're trying to get people to swallow!

Finally, BurnLounge offers music that you simply cannot find anywhere else. Not only are more and more Independent artists coming on board--but BIG NAME artists are releasing music EXCLUSIVELY through BurnLounge. For the Independent artist, BurnLounge offers a much higher yield than any label would give them. One such artist, has had his stuff downloaded over 22,000 times in the last 90 days. Try to tell HIM that BurnLounge is worthless!

Simply put, if you joined BurnLounge to get rich...but didn't--you got in for the wrong reasons. You're GREEDY...and most likely--LAZY!
You can't get something for nothing! You've got to put in the work!
If you do, it WILL pay off for you
in the end. If you don't--it won't, so don't go spreading bad things about something you haven't even given an honest try. Ask yourself this, "If I put as much work into my 9-5 job, as I did [my]BurnLounge, Would I still have my 9-5 job?"
The fact is, it IS working for others, and "People who say that it can't be done--should not interrupt those who are doing it!"

As for those who'd like to find out more about BurnLounge...and are SERIOUS about it, drop me an e/m at CatchTheWave@UBurnDigital.com --Beau-Jeffrey--815-788-8887

3:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was also a Burnscammer for 30 days and of that 30 days I started to feel very disheartened about the burnscam concept because something in my gut said NO! I tried to talk myself out of the feeling I was having and then I finally gave in and said that is it this just isnt moral. But, Christains got me started! It cant be wrong! well I am Christain too and I do plenty of things that are wrong...but, not immoral so I guess that them being Christain has no merit...we are all sinners. However when God is tugging at your heart strings and saying "you dont want to be a part of this very obvious scam", what else are you going to do? Throw in the towel. My advice to anyone considering this is to stay far far away!

9:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have a "friend" who has tried convincing me to join another MLM called usana. i rejected the offer because it did not sound like a real job. he was relentless and i kept giving him the same answer over and over. recently he has joined burnlounge. he now tells me that he never believed in usana when he first started and that it is not the same for burnlounge. these are the type of people we should all avoid and this "digital music company" is filled with them. GE may give out referral bonuses but they still make 70% of their revenue from actual product sales not referrals. REAL MONEY TAKES REAL WORK

9:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i recently went to a house meeting and was pretty convinced, but now i read all this and it's pretty dicouraging. I'm on the same page as the guy who talkes about all the "big name" investors. are all these celebreties going to risk their reputation and lose fans over burnlounge?

11:35 AM  

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